Hello readers-- I am starting a new post for responses to http://childmyths.blogspot.com/2011/07/eye-contact-with-babies-what-when-why.html.
There is a long list of queries and responses on that post, and I cannot seem either to publish or to answer any more. I hope people will see my notice and come over to this one instead.
I am going to start with a query I received but could not publish on the old post.
AND-- I'm so sorry but I cannot make this query and response line up properly with the margins! It looks okay to me, but when I publish it's out of line. I hope people can figure out what this reader and I were talking about. When I have time I will retype the whole thing, which may be the only solution... no, wait! Problem solved-- I managed to post this as a comment.
AND-- I'm so sorry but I cannot make this query and response line up properly with the margins! It looks okay to me, but when I publish it's out of line. I hope people can figure out what this reader and I were talking about. When I have time I will retype the whole thing, which may be the only solution... no, wait! Problem solved-- I managed to post this as a comment.
Hi Dr. Mercer,
First off, I find it so kind the amount of time you've taken to answer so many questions
from concerned parents.
I'm hoping you have time for one more as I've been worried sick about my son.
I'm a FTM of a 12 week old boy (born 3 weeks early). Since birth, he has never made eye contact with anyone. He looks all around but never at faces. I've tried endlessly to get him to track toys and he won't do that either. I think I've been able to get him to track a page out of a book but I say think b/c I'm not sure he actually tracked it or I just happened to be holding it where his eyes landed. He's also fussy and doesn't like to be cuddled. Only will let you carry him over the shoulder. He does cooh but not often. As mentioned, I am absolutely terrified that he has autism. The lack of eye contact is so disheartening. Any advice would be appreciate. Dear Anon-- I am not sure whether you mean that he is now 12 weeks corrected age, or whether his age dating from when he should have been born is only 9 weeks. If it's the latter, I'm not at all surprised that he has not been making eye contact as you want,and I would be quite surprised if he had done so at birth! He will probably startvocalizing more, soon.
A lot of babies like to be carried on the shoulder. Some even much prefer
to be held facing outward, with the back toward the caregiver. These are just individual differences and not associated with any developmental problems. It sounds as ifyou've been willing to let him "teach" you how he likes to be held, and that's great.
As for tracking things visually,you may notice that when your pediatrician
does this kind of testing, he or she uses a small pencil flashlight which is easy to see against any background and in any light. You could try that if you want to, but please understand that if you can't get him to do it, you should mention it to the pediatrician, but it has nothing to do with autism.
Like all mothers nowadays, you are frightened of autism, but let me tell you
a few things. First, babies have a normal period of "autism" (focus internally rather than externally) in the first few months. It can typically be quite hard to get their attention during this time, or even to comfort them when they're upset. Second, babies cannot be diagnosed as autistic at this age, and even when they are diagnosed after the first birthday, many of them show typical development after that. All those "red flags" you've been reading about have to be considered in the context of developmental age.Third, even when toddlers or preschoolers are diagnosed as autistic, this is not the end of their development, and many have only mild cases.
I hope you will try to get all these things into perspective. If you cannot
manage this,it may be that you are feeling unusually anxious or depressed at this point in your life and need some help with those feelings. Your OB/GYN may be able to help decidewhat you need and refer you for treatment if appropriate. Post-partum emotionalconcerns happen to a whole lot of people and are nothing to be embarrassed about.There's help out there if you need it!
Good luck!
Jean
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Hi Dr. Mercer,
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I find it so kind the amount of time you've taken to answer so many questions
from concerned parents.
I'm hoping you have time for one more as I've been worried sick about my son.
I'm a FTM of a 12 week old boy (born 3 weeks early). Since birth,
he has never made eye contact with anyone. He looks all around but never
at faces. I've tried endlessly to get him to track toys and he won't do that either.
I think I've been able to get him to track a page out of a book but I say think b/c
I'm not sure he actually tracked it or I just happened to be holding it where his
eyes landed. He's also fussy and doesn't like to be cuddled. Only will let you
carry him over the shoulder. He does cooh but not often.
As mentioned, I am absolutely terrified that he has autism. The lack of eye
contact is so disheartening. Any advice would be appreciate.
Dear Anon-- I am not sure whether you mean that he is now 12 weeks
corrected age, or whether his age dating from when he should have been
born is only 9 weeks. If it's the latter, I'm not at all surprised that he has not
been making eye contact as you want,and I would be quite surprised if he had
done so at birth! He will probably startvocalizing more, soon.
A lot of babies like to be carried on the shoulder. Some even much prefer
to be held facing outward, with the back toward the caregiver. These are just
individual differences and not associated with any developmental problems.
It sounds as ifyou've been willing to let him "teach" you how he likes to be held,
and that's great.
As for tracking things visually,you may notice that when your pediatrician
does this kind of testing, he or she uses a small pencil flashlight which is easy
to see against any background and in any light. You could try that if you want to,
but please understand that if you can't get him to do it, you should mention it to
the pediatrician, but it has nothing to do with autism.
Like all mothers nowadays, you are frightened of autism, but let me tell you
a few things. First, babies have a normal period of "autism" (focus internally
rather than externally) in the first few months. It can typically be quite hard to
get their attention during this time, or even to comfort them when they're upset.
Second, babies cannot be diagnosed as autistic at this age, and even when they
are diagnosed after the first birthday, many of them show typical development
after that. All those "red flags" you've been reading about have to be considered
in the context of developmental age.Third, even when toddlers or preschoolers are
diagnosed as autistic, this is not the end of their development, and many have only
mild cases.
I hope you will try to get all these things into perspective. If you cannot
manage this,it may be that you are feeling unusually anxious or depressed
at this point in your life and need some help with those feelings. Your OB/GYN
may be able to help decidewhat you need and refer you for treatment if
appropriate. Post-partum emotionalconcerns happen to a whole lot of people
and are nothing to be embarrassed about.There's help out there if you need it!
Good luck!
Jean
Dear Jean,
ReplyDeleteCould you please give me your thoughts on my just 10 month old son. I have been worried sick (literally) about him since he was about 5/6 months old with regards to his development and engagement to others. He has always been a fussy baby since birth and suffered with reflux and found to have a cows milk allergy at 6 months. However this is now managed well and under control. My concerns are he has poor eye contact a lot of the time. Much better when he is at a distance. If he is in his jumper or high chair and I'm walking around the room he will not take his eyes of me but if I stop and try to engage/talk to him he will avert his gaze after a second and I struggle to get it again unless I make a funny noise, sing or pull a funny face. Which always makes him giggle. He responds to his name half of the time. His motor skills are way behind. Doesn't roll and dislikes intensely on being on his tummy, no crawling or attempts at pulling himself up. He has sat upright since 7 months. He seems to be very fidgety with his feet and hands. Has a habit of rubbing his feet together and opening and closing his hands. He eats and sleeps well. He is quiet a quite boy (apart from whinging - which he does a lot.) babbles a little but no words. He claps his hands most of the time when asked and copies someone else if they clap, he waves bye-bye most of the time, he has a fake cough sound which he does after he hears someone else cough, he can do a red indian type noise with his hands and mouth when requested and has just started to give kisses. He loves being sung too, tickled and peek a boo. Toys don't overly impress him. He will shake them, pass them from hand to another, bang them together or on a surface and mouth them. But don't seem to hold his attention for more than a couple of minutes. He cry's when I leave the room and has stranger anxiety too. I use to think he was hypersensitive to noises but I don't think so anymore. If there is a sound he doesn't like I can make him feel comfortable around it by having a happy face and saying "it's okay" then he's fine. He doesnt do joint attention. But if I say certain things like "do you want a snacker?" He will look at the cupboard they are in and then look back at me. If I say "where's grandad?" He will look at his photo on the fire place. So showing some understanding.
Look forward to your response
Thanks for finding this page to put your comment on.
DeleteTry to keep in mind that eye contact is about communication. That's what human beings use it for--we can figure out some things about other people from looking at their gaze, and we can communicate things about ourselves in the same way. Your little guy is clearly both sending and receiving communications at an excellent level. To look at the cupboard and then back at you is a form of joint attention,and he's using his gaze direction to show you that you are sharing an idea. As for looking away when you are nearby, I'm wondering whether you are staring at him with a serious face because you think he should be gazing at you and there's something wrong if he is not. They don't like to be stared at, any more than adults do. It sounds as if he does look at you when you do something interesting, cheerful, and entertaining, which is exactly what I would expect.
As for the toys, what he does with them is age-appropriate. People are their favorite toys at this age. You may want to model toy play for him and make it interactive-- not essential, but can't hurt and would be fun for both of you.
I'm slightly more concerned about the motor development, although it's great that he sits well.My guess is that he didn't care for tummy time, so you didn't do it much, if at all. He will eventually roll and so on, but like many back-sleeping babies he has not developed the muscle strength and skills that "the book" tells you he should have. Are you using a walker? There are safe ones on the market, and their use can encourage leg extension and reaching. Opening and closing the hands and rubbing the feet are common at this age, and they indicate that he is trying to get some motor skills going as well as he can. That he can hand off and mouth toys shows normal development of hand and hand-to-mouth skills.
I can see that his early troubles made you ready to worry about him, but it sounds to me as if he's doing quite well and just has a bit of motor catch-up to do.(And that will happen eventually no matter what you do, unless there is some medical problem, which I assume you've investigated.)
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my concerns. I really appreciate it.
DeleteYour right In the fact he has never really tolerated being on his tummy well so didn't have much tummy time although now he will tolerate it for longer and has between 20-25 mins aday. But is unable/refuses to push up on his arms in any situation. He presents as if his arms are weak yet he can lift heavy toys over his head and pull heavy things. Also he can weight bear but never has his feet flat on the floor. He rolls them onto their sides making him unsteady. It is very strange! I take him swimming and soft play weekly but doesn't seem to be improving his motor skills. I have made his HV and paediatrician aware of my concerns and he has now been refereed to a developmental specialist for further assessment. He had an audiology test today and passed. No hearing impairment. He just seems so uninterested and frustrated 50% of the time. It's like he can switch on and off like a radio. My gut feeling tells something is a miss with him. But everyone who should know about knows about him and it's just a case of waiting and see and how he goes. He's still very young. I'm also getting help with anxiety related problems to this and am focusing more on what he can do than not do and enjoying him as much as I can.
Pushing up with the arms usually begins with using the whole lower arm, not just the hands, to push. The shoulders and chest do the work, but just as would be the case for an adult, if the baby doesn't spend time using the shoulders, those muscles are not very strong. If you think about how this works at the gym, the shoulder press machine uses different muscles than the chest press. He may have arm strength to do other things, but it doesn't help him push up.
DeleteAlso, their ankles take a while to get strong enough to take the weight on the flat foot, and babies tend to use the toes or the side of the foot when they can, e.g. a walker or jumper.
As for rolling over, this requires head control that is more easily developed on the tummy. The baby twists the head around and eventually the body follows, rather than pushing with the arms or legs as an adult might when rolling.
Once again, babies who have not done much tummy time tend to be temporarily delayed in large-muscle motor development, but they do catch up.
I don't want to ignore your sense that there is some problem, but a lot of what you've said can be accounted for by tummy time issues. I am glad you are getting help with the anxiety, so if there does turn out to be some problem you can deal with it effectively.
Sergiev Posad (Moscow region), there is an orphanage for deaf-blind children. These children have only a tactile contact with other people. This orphanage is working on при специальном обучении по методу И. А. Соколянского А. И. Мещеряков
ReplyDeleteИсточник: http://meduniver.com/Medical/Psixology/826.html MedUniver
Even blind and deaf from birth, children begin to develop and sincerely attached to their caregivers and teachers. Is this not proof that the conclusions Attachments therapists are wrong? The child has only 2 связи with the outside world - the tactile sense and of smell. This is enough to intellect and affection evolved ... if properly use these senses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUWaZDr6dCI
orphanage for deaf-blind children in Sergiev Posad
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj3VrlAqcMU
What a difference a child looks into the eyes of the other party, or is not looking? Why it is important for therapists Attachments ?. Order "Look me in the eye" in the Russian nashkodil used if the child does not want to admit. To find out the baby was lying or telling the truth. If the child is lying ... he could barely stand up and look tutor his ears and cheeks begin to blush with shame and stress. I find it hard to understand how you can use compulsory looking eye to eye for occurrence of love and affection.
ReplyDeleteHi Dr. Mercer, I am really glad I discovered your blog. it is really difficult to figure out how all the different things we read related to child development apply to our baby. Your posts and answers are so thoughtful and informative they feel like a breath of fresh air in the dreary situation we are facing.
ReplyDeleteOur baby is 7 months old, his motor skill is quite delayed (can't sit up straight yet). While we are working on that, we also have been told by a pediatrician we saw that he doesn't seem to engage with people, such that he does not look at you if you call his name, and he rarely looks at the people around him. He also doesn't reach out to grab stuff. Combined that with a small head CF (3 %tile ), we have been told by the pediatrician (in Taiwan) that he may never be fully 'normal' and face a tough road ahead. (his weight / height are in normal range, he eats / sleeps well).
While we are looking into early childhood intervention programs, I was wondering if you have any suggestion on how we best approach the situation and anything else we should be aware of.
Thank you,
Albert
I am so sorry to hear about the challenges you and your baby are facing. I do want to point out that normal weight and height are a good sign for later development, and that some babies with small heads do experience some improvement in head size as time goes on.
ReplyDeleteYou mention seeing a pediatrician, so I assume that his hearing and vision have been tested. If not, you should have this done, as poor vision and hearing can be the causes of the social and cognitive delays you describe. Because the retinas of the eyes are really outgrowths of the brain, anything that affects brain growth can also affect them. Babies with these problems can often be helped with corrective lenses or with hearing help.
I am not sure what you mean by sitting up straight. If you mean actually sitting firmly without any support, 7 months is not really late for that. If you mean sitting on someone's lap where there is support, yes, that would be a delay. Was he ever described as a "floppy" baby, or with low muscle tone?
If your baby has been sleeping on his back and not getting much "tummy time", that would be a partial explanation for any motor delay. The norms for motor milestones have usually been drawn from babies decades ago who spent a lot of time on their tummies, and they reached certain milestones earlier than babies who spend more time on their backs. Working on some "tummy time" may help with motor development, if you have not already been doing this.
Early intervention programs focus on finding objects or activities that get a baby's interest and motivate him to look or even reach. But of course if there is any visual problem this would be more difficult. I would just suggest that in addition to getting early intervention you can explore things you can do that seem to get him to orient toward you or to get quiet as if paying attention. These could be things like singing or reciting nursery rhymes with a lot of intonation, or flashing a light on and off, or all of those together. The idea is to create an interesting spectacle. Please understand that I am not saying these activities will work a miracle, but they are things you can do that may help and certainly can't hurt.
Again, do follow up on the vision and hearing if you haven't done this. As for being "fully normal"-- whether he is or isn't, he will still be a person and he will continue to develop with whatever help can be given to him.
Thank you so much for your answer. Yes, our baby has been described as floppy. When I mentioned that he is not sitting up straight, I should have clarify that when he is in a sitting position (in our laps for example), he has trouble holding his head up and mostly look down. He also prefers to turn to his left. We have been working on the tummy time (yes, he does sleeps on his back) and stretches that would help with his neck muscle (instructed by a physiotherapist we saw), I think he is showing some slight improvements in the past month or so.
DeleteThank you also for pointing out the vision and hearing tests, I don't think those have been done so far. We will definitely follow up on that.
Best wishes,
Albert
Good luck, and do keep up with the physiotherapy even if at times he does not seem to appreciate it! It can really make a difference, and if he can support and control his head better it will help him look around and pay attention to people.
DeleteHi Dr.Jean,
ReplyDeleteI am mother of a 8 week old baby boy(born 2 weeks early by c-section) He looks at light and windows mostly and doesn't make eye contact and smile. When we try to talk holding him close he stares at us but can't follow us when we move. Also doesn't respond on calling etc. Is it normal. Ear test is normal. I am very much concerned as my elder daughter has low vision.
Hi Prathe-- I am not surprised that you are somewhat anxious, because of your daughter's vision problems. However, you need to remember to think about the baby in terms of his corrected age-- the age he would be if you counted from when he should have been born rather than when he was actually born. That means he is really only 6 weeks old, counting from the later date, and he can only be expected to act like a 6-week-old. I would be very surprised if he looked at you when you call him, as that is not likely to occur for at least another 3 or 4 months. If he gazes at you when you talk to him, that is a good sign. He will probably begin to smile in the next few weeks, but even then you will probably have to work to get a smile from him! When he begins to make eye contact it will be very brief, also.
ReplyDeleteBecause your daughter has the problem with vision, I am sure you will be watching him carefully in the future, but I would say that at this point he is not doing anything to cause concern. Good luck with your family!
Thank you Dr.Jean for the quick response which definitely boosts my confidence. Will update his progress.
ReplyDeleteGood, let me know what happens!
DeletePAVI PAVITHRA-- I hope you will see that I am answering your query here. There is no more room on the page you addressed it too.
ReplyDeleteYou asked about a baby boy, corrected age 5 months, who has recently begun "avoiding eye contact" after a period of frequent eye contact. You said that he smiles and plays peek-a-boo.
I am not sure what you mean by avoiding eye contact. Is he looking more at other things than faces, or do you feel that he makes eye contact and then averts his gaze?
If he is still smiling and playing socially, I would not worry about this at all. He may simply be realizing that there are other interesting things to look at, besides faces. There is nothing magic about eye contact-- it is just one of our human ways of communicating, and if he continues to communicate in other ways, that is good enough.
Can you be more specific about what you mean by avoiding eye contact?
Dear Dr.Jean am here again with some doubts. Sometimes I hav observed unusual eye movements(moving eyeballs up and down continuously, looking inwards etc.) in my baby's eyes when he looks at some places. The other times he looks straight.My daughter has Nystagmus and does my son has the chance of having it. But his eye movements look diff than hers. Am very upset and really worried. Please guide me.
ReplyDeleteDear Prathe-- I see that you also made a comment about the baby not having smiled at you-- that comment did not appear here, but I was able to read it when it was sent to my e-mail.
DeleteNystagmus can take several different forms, so it may not look the same in two children. It can have a hereditary component, so it is quite possible that both the children have it. Do you have access to a good ophthalmologist? There are some treatments that can help with nystagmus and help to preserve vision, which is important even if it is at a low level.
I don't want to alarm you further, but it would be a good idea to start treatment as soon as possible. Your children are at a period in development when the brain is "learning" to work with the eyes and respond to vision, and this will be more effective if the images sent from the eyes are clearer.
I am sorry that you are having this worrisome set of problems. Please seek medical help for both children as soon as you can.Children with nystagmus do not necessarily lose their vision, but they need as much help as they can get in early life.
Yes Dr Jean, I mentioned that he didn't smile and smiles looking at tubelights. So is his vision problem that restricts him from smiling looking at faces.. Can u suggest me some good hospitals where treatment for Nystagmus is done as I'm not finding any here. My daughter's eyeballs shows jerky movements but sons is different. So should I conclude my younger one is also having problems with vision.
ReplyDeleteIt's possible that he does not see the faces very well.
DeleteCould you tell me where you are so I can try to find out what hospitals are near you?
ANONYMOUS with the very anxious 18-month-old:
ReplyDeleteI hope you will see this. The page you commented on cannot hold any more comments, so I am trying to get people to come to this page instead.
The situation sounds very difficult for you, and it is no picnic for the little guy to be so fearful and to have trouble regulating his feelings. Do you have an early intervention service where you live? Do you have a regular pediatrician you can ask about this? It does not matter so much whether you want to call the problem SPD or something else-- the real issue is for you to become able to help him take a calmer approach to life.
You didn't mention whether he talks at all or whether he is able to tell you what he finds so disturbing.
Generally speaking, some fear of strangers is a good sign developmentally, but his reaction seems unusually strong. Also, he cannot be getting enough sleep, and you can't either. You need some support on this and I hope you will be able to find it.
FOR IATHA PRIYA DARSHINI--
ReplyDeleteAgain, I have to answer your query here because the original page cannot hold any more comments. I hope you will see this.
I am not at all surprised that your 3-month-old does not respond to his name. I'm sure he will do so in another few months. You also said that he smiles and looks at you when he is in his crib but not when you hold him. This may simply be that when you are holding him your face is too close for him to see it clearly, and when you are a little farther away he gets a clearer image. It's a very good sign of his development that he socializes with you like this.
Unless there is some other problem that you did not mention, the only thing I can tell you to do is to keep on with what you have been doing! He sounds fine to me!
Dear Dr. Mercer, I used to consult this page when, some weeks ago, I was very worried about my then 3-month-old son. He did not make ete contact nor did he smile. your posts helped me to keep relatively calm and not to automatically jump to to conclusions. We went to a pediatrician and also to an ophtalmologist where my son got
ReplyDeletefitted with glasses. About two weeks later, his behavipur started to change dramatically. He now practically stares at us all the time and smiles at us from time to time. I am not sure whether the glasses caused the change or whether he just needed some more time to develop his capacities for interaction. Anyhow, I am incredibly happy about this development (today, the pediatrician confirmed the baby now seemed totally "normal" to him now and had made an incredible leap in his development). I just wanted to say thank you for your blog and share this experience - perhaps it can give some hope to other worried parents.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this comment. I do hope other people will read it and realize that there may be lots of different reasons for "problem" behaviors in the early months, and lots of ways in which they get cleared up or clear up by themselves.
DeleteHello,
ReplyDeleteI have really enjoyed reading your blogs. I am a teacher and since the day I found out I was pregnant I have been worried about my child having Autism, as I want the best for my child. He has always been a fairly happy and easy baby. I thought this was amazing, however, after reading articles, I see that this could be an indicator of an autistic child because they don't know to communicate or get upset. These are things I see my baby doing, (he just turned 6 months)
- He will smile and laugh at us. Some days it takes more work than others. He does belly laugh and smile when smiled at, just not all the time.
-He can roll from his back to his stomach, but can't roll from his stomach to his back, is this normal?
-He makes eye contact, but doesn't hold it for periods of times.
-when I leave the room he will follow my movements, when my husband walks by he will follow his movements
-he loves to play with toys and uses both hands, he follows toys and can grab them when they are far away.
-he is sitting independently, but isn't showing signs to start crawling yet.
-he babbles, somedays more than others, squeals when happy and grunts when he isn't happy
-he is making a lot of scream and sounds, but doesn't make a lot of double sounds like mama dada
-he smiles when playing peek a boo, but I don't think he gets the game yet.
These are things I am worried about;
-he isn't making long periods of eye contact with me or strangers like other babies we play with. Some of my friends babies stare at their parents and strangers.
-he will smile at strangers but then quickly look away
-he doesn't look at me when he feeds, he will come off and look at me and smile, but will not make eye contact during his feeds
-when he is doing tummy time he moves his arms like he is swimming he hasn't learned to put his hands down and push up... only does this when he is following a toy I move from side to side
-sometimes he will wake up and coo and cry for me but most times he will play with his stuffed animal for a 10 minutes before calling out
- he doesn't always look when his name is being called.
-He makes a lot of eye contact when he is on his back and playing with toys, but doesn't when he is on his belly or sitting (he just learned how to do this)
-He doesn't like making eye contact when his face is right infront of mine.
-He likes to look around the room consistantly
I am mainly worried about his eye contact. All the babies in our groups seem to have more eye contact than him. Some tend to babble more than him as well. Could that be personality or red flag to autism?
Thank you for your input, I have tried to talked to my doctor but he doesn't seemed concerned, however, I can't stop worrying.
I'm going to answer this on the other page where you posted it--
DeleteThis sounds 110% percent to a T exactly like my son who will be 6 months old in two weeks, my son was born with a cataract and is currently using a contact lens to try and get vision in that eye but he is still currently blind. I was wondering if that had something to do with it or was it early signs of autism. Id love some feedback. Thanks.
DeleteWow, it sounds as if your family has had some real challenges to deal with! Let me just point out to you that before 4-6 months babies do not have binocular vision-- they don't look at things with both eyes at once as older people do, but instead switch their attention back and forth from the left eye to the right eye and reverse. For typical babies, that means that the two eyes see pretty much the same scene but alternate looking at it. For your son, he would have had to look with only one eye, and if he switched it would be from seeing something to seeing nothing. I would think this would interfere temporarily with the way he responded to people and objects. But as Anon pointed out, the shift from being unresponsive to being responsive does not take place on a given day after birth and can involve different patterns for different individuals.
DeleteAre you saying that your son also showed the pattern that Anon described? Did you feel that you also had a mood problem-- which might well have been connected with the natural emotion created by your son's condition? Just wondering-- you don;t need to tell all, but it might help other people if you tell your story--
We have been through a very emotional and physical challenge with our son. He is our first and we found out at 4 days old that he has the cataract, since then we have been through two surgeries, many many many eye appointments with dilation and not so fun pressure checks. Now we are battling the contact lens and a eye patch over his good eye.
DeleteLike the anonymous above my son sounds just like her child, last night he engaged in a game of peek a boo and had the sweetest belly laugh.
He makes great eye contact when laying down but when he is standing in our laps he seems to struggle. He also doesn't respond to his name and sometimes doesn't turn to the sound of a new voice in the room. He is a very very laid back baby. He will play for long periods of time alone which seemed to be concerning to me. Maybe im just blessed with a happy content son.
I do think I have struggled with postpartum anxiety and I wasn't evens sure that was a real thing but now having addressed it I am much better. I still have days where I struggle, wondering if my son could be autistic but I am now just enjoying him and his quirks.
Thanks!
Aren't those belly laughs the greatest! I swear, if we could genetically modify humans so they laughed much earlier, we would probably cut down the child abuse rate a good deal.
DeleteI am not sure what to say about the other things you mention. It's early for him to do peek-a-boo, but maybe his experience with seeing/not seeing things has speeded this up. I would expect him to respond to the sound of his name sometime soon-- but like an adult, he will not do it every single time.
I would just suggest that you not always leave him to play quietly for long periods (I'm not sure how long you mean, but perhaps not more than 20 minutes) without checking to see whether you can get him to play with you. If you can't get him to, you can't-- but just keep in mind that after all he's been through, he may be choosing peace and quiet when a bit more activity and stimulation would actually be helpful for him.
However-- you know your baby, I don't, so please take what I've just said as speculation, not evidence-based advice!
His laugh is contagious and I live for it!
DeleteThe peek-a-boo, Im not sure if its the surprise of it all or what but he laughs when I pop around the corner and say boo.
My family has given him a lot of nick names and I wonder if the lack of hearing his name has caused him to not associate the name with himself. Ive been working on using it more and saying things like Cash would you like to take a bath. Cash are you hungry Etc...
Its hard to say for how long, usually after 10 mins or so I will get down on the floor and engage with him but he really doesn't pay me a whole lot of mind. He will smile at me when I get on his level and say hello then its back to the toys. He "talks" when hes down on the floor playing, and changes toys from hand to hand,he also does this swinging arm thing like hes banging his hand on the toys. Sometimes he does it when there isn't a toy at all he will do it on the floor. He rolls over from back to belly but not the other way around and he cant sit up yet. he would much rather walk around in his walker than play on the floor. I have really been trying to get him to have more tummy time to help the process of crawling. ( Not showing any interest yet) When he wakes up from naps and sleep he almost never cries out to be gotten up. I check on him every 5-10 mins since he sleeps on his tummy so I find him awake and maybe that's why? Maybe he never has the opportunity to cry out for me.
I really appreciate your feedback :)
If he doesn't always hear the same name for himself, there is really no way for him to know "which is him"!
DeleteHe sounds to me as if he's doing very well. One thing you need to keep in mind is that they don;t progress at exactly the same rate of speed on every aspect of development, but instead often have a long plateau without change in one area while they work on a different one, then suddenly show dramatic progress. That's one reason all those average milestones are not always a lot of help.
Dear Jean,
ReplyDeleteI have a one year old son who is an absolute delight. He smiles and laughs, and uses eye contact effectively to communicate and interact. I wanted to post because I visited read your page numerous times when I was feeling anxious and found your rational and informative responses reassuring. Up until about 9- 10 months I was incredibly anxious that my son wasn't interacting much or communicating well- particularly in terms of eye contact. I identified with so many of the concerns that people have posted, including fears about Autism even though I knew that such early diagnosis is not possible. I took him to the Dr a few times and despite their reassurance, my gut feeling was that something was wrong. I think parents with young children are faced with a lot of information and we also spend time around other babies who are developing different skills at different paces. Whilst this can sometimes be reassuring it can also be unnerving, depending on perspective at the time. On reflection I think I had some unhealthy postpartum levels of anxiety and seeking treatment for this helped me to shift my focus and start to enjoy my son again while his social skills continued to develop.
Thanks for all the work you do and the time you take to write replies. It’s a minefield out there and a lot of the other information I came across on the internet served to heighten, not allay my fears.
Dear Anon-- thank you so much for this letter. I would like everyone to read it, so I am going to post it as a separate blog post (if I can figure out how to do this!). Your point about making comparisons with other babies is so important.
DeleteYou're welcome and I enjoyed reading the commentary with your blog entry. Post natal depression is widely spoken about but I don’t remember hearing as much about anxiety. It just blindsided me really, with a rational worry (vision being a little delayed to develop) spiraling out of control into major worries about all aspects of his social communication development. Reflecting on how I would have read my letter above, if in the midst of anxiety, I would have thought ‘lucky her, but I’m so worried that I’ll never feel that sense of relief that my baby is okay’. Trust me, my fear was deep seated and felt real. I had a long list of ‘evidence’ and I thought it was only a matter of time before other people around me started to worry about him too. Some people will have concerns that do need to be followed up, and that is why it is so difficult –I thought that if I didn’t stop worrying I would not be ready to intervene when I needed to. Like you said in the blog- no amount of reassurance made a difference. I think there needs to be more of a public discussion around post natal anxiety, as well as depression. While they are often interlinked I think they can manifest a little differently and for me I wish I had detected it and sought treatment at least 5 months earlier.
ReplyDeleteThanks again for your comments. You have reminded me to emphasize anxiety in a piece about perinatal mood disorders that I'm writing for a child development encyclopedia.
DeleteI know that your fear not only "felt real", but it was real. It takes a lot of strength to try to look at the situation objectively when your emotions are screaming that they are telling the truth. Congratulations on having managed to get some perspective and find some help, and thanks again for telling this story.
Dear Dr
ReplyDeleteMy name is monowar.My twin girls are 11 months old. One of them is very active and she always smiles back.But there are some facts that really makes us concerned.
She use to flap her hands.Rarely responses to her name.Hits her own head somtimes. Utters repeted sounds like Ba BA ga ga da da. But she can clap whenever we tell to do so. She can stand on her own. Can not walk. Now some of the symptoms are making us concerned please help.
Dear Monowar-- I hope you will see this answer. I had to move your comment over here because there was no more room on the original page.
ReplyDeleteI am guessing that your twins were born a little prematurely, so that the corrected age is possibly 10 months. It sounds as if this twin's development is in many ways typical for her age, including the babbling and the hand-flapping. I would be more worried about her failing to respond to her name. Have you had her hearing tested? Has she had many ear infections? Ear infections can leave a baby with temporary hearing problems even after quite a few weeks.
I am also wondering about her hitting her head. What are the circumstances when she does this? It can be hard to give each twin enough attention, and I am wondering whether she is alone or unoccupied when she hits her head.
Hello Dr, First off, thank you for all your sound advice. I've been reading through the comments above and identify a lot with what some of the previous commenters are saying. I do however want to run my situation by you, since my anxiety levels are sky rocketing.
DeleteMy daughter will be 8 months old in 3 days. She’s always lagged behind on the percentile charts, however her pediatrician said he wasn’t worried about her. He also looked at her muscle tone and said she was fine. However, I have noticed a few things that have me worried.
• She’s flexible to the extent that she can reach her toes and nibble on them.
• Literally, almost from birth, she’s been craning her neck and trying to raise her head to get a good view on what’s going on.
While she’s been doing crunches, she started to roll over from back to tummy at around 4.5 months. She then forgot about it in a week, and didn’t do anything till the 6 month mark, when she did a short start and stop of rolling again. Now, at 7 months, she’s been rolling from back to tummy to the extent that she gets on her tummy and can’t get back. I know she knows how to because she used to be able to do it. But now. It seems like she’s just forgotten how to. She at least lies on her tummy for 30 mins or so at a stretch, which she just wasn’t doing till some time back.
ReplyDelete• When she gets on her tummy, she is able to change directions and move 360 degree. I can see her trying to move forward, but when she can’t, she sort of gives up and just lies down with her head on the ground.
• We lay her down to sleep on her back, and these days. She’s started to show a preference for sleeping on her side. If she gets on her tummy while asleep, she gets hysterical.
• Till a few days or maybe a month back, she was ready with smiles. She’s never been a terribly smiley baby, but she would smile when she’d see us. Now she sort of just looks at us and looks away. When we come home and see her, she doesn’t seem excited to see us. Even after we call her name and make funny faces, we might get a glimmer of a smile. She will laugh and squeal only when being lifted up to the ceiling, or being tickled near her chin. It just sort of seems to me that she’s regressed when it comes to social skills and laughing and smiling. We are in a nanny share with a baby a month younger and the other kid is constantly smiling. It’s hard not to compare.
• She cannot pull herself to a sitting position, but sits without support by herself for several minutes now. She grasps a toy with one hand while balancing on the other, and then slowly moved the other hand to hold the toy with both hands. After maybe 10 mins in a sitting position, she leans forward and cannot balance.
I know they say not to compare, but when I see other babies born at the same time as her, and they’re mobile or getting close to pulling themselves up, I can’t help but get worried. Do I have a late bloomer on my hands? What can I do to encourage physical skills? Are there any social skills or cues that I should be watching out for and am missing?
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Dear Anonymous-- I hope you find this response to your message. I find that most people do not notice what I said on the original page-- that there is no more room to publish there! I ended up bringing your message over here in two parts, which is why it looks a bit odd.
DeleteYes, they do say not to compare, and they are perfectly right. There is no way that any parent can see enough other babies to be able to make a sensible comparison of their own child's development, or to understand the enormous individual differences in the timing and pattern of developmental change. For example: the normal range for walking independently is from 6 (!) to 18 (also !) months. The mean (all the ages added up and divided by the number of kids) is about 12 months, but that average really tells you nothing about how any individual, perfectly normal,child will progress.
Now, let me address some of your specific statements. I am assuming that when you say she's behind on the percentiles, you mean she's small for her age. Not to invoke Garrison Keillor, but you know, everybody can't be above average!
Good muscle tone is an important indicator of development, and looking around from birth is certainly an excellent sign (but if people are reading this whose babies did not do that,don't fret, they are not all very vision-oriented).
High flexibility: yes, she is at the right age for that (which she could not do earlier). Not a problem-- on the contrary.
Rolling over and sitting: let me mention a couple of things. You've had her sleeping supine, like lots of people nowadays, and that means that her motor development will be delayed RELATIVE TO what you see in "the book". The old norms were based on prone-sleeping babies, whose motor development followed a different pattern. She gets tired in sitting because she still does not have good hip strength, but she'll get there. She's obviously motivated to use this position because she can play with objects as she cannot in other positions, so that's great. BTW, it's great that you've got so much tummy time going on.
About rolling over: if you could measure what she is doing with her muscles, you would see that the way she rolls now is different from the way she rolled before. She is bigger now and her weight and length require different movements to turn her. In addition, every baby develops motor control from the top down, so her physical abilities are different than they were earlier and she has to develop new ways to roll. She can't "know how to do it" because like all babies she has developed so quickly that the way she knew to turn before no longer works for her.
Now let's get to the smiling. She used to smile more, and the younger baby smiles more than she does. Doesn't this suggest than smiling less may be a function of development? She is just at the age where most babies begin to be concerned about differences between people and about separations and reunions. Not to say that you shouldn't leave her-- but she is likely to respond to the fact that you have gone and come back. Also, things must work differently for her when she's with a nanny and another baby so close in age than when she's with you, and she may need to "shift gears" as she goes from one situation to another.
I am not sure what has you so worried, although I wonder whether you yourself are responding to your separations from her and anxious about that. I would not see this child (as you have described her) as a late bloomer at all, but instead just as someone who is "blooming" according to her own pattern. My advice is just to play with her as much as you can and to follow her cues that tell you what she's interested in. Being sensitive to her communications and responsive to them (hide the phone when your with her) is the best thing you can do.
I hope you will think about your own anxiety and whether you might need some help with that-- in case it's not really all about your separation from your baby.
Dr, Thank you so much for this. A couple things to note -
Delete1. You are right about my own anxiety. She fell from the bed (during the week she was rolling over very well) and the guilt from that has just been unsurmountable. I have been thinking a lot about this and am trying my hardest to not worry and be calm and be the relaxed happy parent she needs
2. She was born with a spot of hip dysplasia. We had her in a pavelik harness for the first 4 weeks of her life. Ultrasounds revealed that her hip is ok. So, I know that her hip is fine. I cannot help but wonder if her delay in rolling over etc is a factor of her hip issues
3. There was mild trauma when she was born, when she had to be "yanked" out of me, and her left shoulder experienced some bruising. Clavicle wasn't fractured, but there was some strain for sure.
4. You're right about the nanny and the other baby. My daughter probably needs time switching gears like you said. However, the one thing that does make me wonder - our nanny is huge on sleep training. I am not. I have always comforted her when she's crying before sleep or wakes up crying. I am ok letting her cry for a few minutes, but anything beyond 5-7 mins doesn't work for me. I know our nanny lets her cry a lot longer. Is it really true what they say about sleep training, can it "alter" a baby's disposition?
Hi-- well, you've added a lot of interesting information! It's certainly possible that the hip dysplasia and harness experience could affect her use of those muscles, not in the long run, but with respect to the orderly progression of motor control in the first year or so. Hip dysplasia can be affected by supine sleeping, as the pull of gravity moves the thighs and legs in the "wrong" direction-- I am not suggesting that anything terrible has happened here, just that her motor development is a complex matter that may have been affected by a lot of things you would not necessarily think relevant. It will all work out after a while, but you can see that there may have been reasons for the "late blooming".
DeleteAs for the fall off the bed, I wonder a)whether that sensitized your anxiety about rolling, and b) whether she has picked up on that anxiety herself. Again, very little chance of long-term effects, but possibly one more factor in the mix. (You see, even if they weren't born individuals, babies would quickly become individuals because of their varied experiences.)
Babies who get non-parental care always have different experiences around daily care routines and sleep when with parents and other caregivers. I can understand why the nanny is into sleep training, as the care of two babies of these ages is extremely demanding. I don't think it's sleep training that alters dispositions in your case, but simply the fact that she is at an age where there are abrupt reorganizations in emotional responses and especially an increase in wariness and fearfulness. Maybe it would help if you think of this sort of thing as being maturation-- as one who notices differences between people and situations, she is now more like an adult than she used to be.
I understand your ongoing sense of guilt perfectly-- I still occasionally have a flashback to an event decades ago when one of my children almost choked on a piece of food I had hurriedly not cut up small enough-- but you're right, if you can find a better equilibrium that will be good for your whole family.
Dear Dr, Thank you so much for your thoughtful and detailed response. This has helped me immensely. This, and the other comments from parents and your counsel to them. I was able to really face my anxiety and address it for what it was. From the time I emailed you to now, maybe a week or so, I can already see changes in my child. Just goes to show that children are constantly changing and growing, and everything balances out in the end. Thank you again.
DeleteMy daughter turned 1 on 7th June and generally is a truly delightful baby. However, there are things about her behaviour that have really started to worry me over the last couple of months and like so many parents who have posted here, Google keeps pointing to autism. I am at the point now where the anxiety around her being autistic consumes my days and I don't enjoy my time with her anymore because I am constantly looking for behaviours to reassure me. My husband is convinced she is absolutely fine, but I don't know whether I should be pushing for her to be seen by early intervention.
ReplyDeleteThe aspects of her behaviour that concern me:
- She very rarely responds to her name when we call;
- She doesn't reach out to be picked up;
- She's very happy playing on her own and rarely engages us in her play. If we're on the floor with her, she will sometimes pass us things she's holding (but won't always let go of them!)
- She frowns a lot - but if you frown back at her she will smile back;
- She flaps her hands (but can be distracted from it);
- She plays with unusual things - there is a screw in her cot that she presses like a button constantly;
- She has slept through the night (12 hours straight) from 13 weeks - in the mornings when she wakes up, she'll play with the screw in her cot and babble until we go in (doesn't cry for us);
- She babbles but doesn't say any meaningful words yet;
- She can commando crawl, but not crawl on all fours, and she can't really bear weight on her legs yet;
- We've never had a problem with stranger anxiety;
- The good things are - she waves and claps and will do so (mostly) if we ask her to. She points all the time - at things she wants, like her water cup, but also at say a dog if we're out for a walk. However, she just points at the dog and doesn't look at us while she's doing it. If we point and look at things she will mostly follow our gaze to look at them too. She likes peek a boo and will squeal with delight when we chase her. She's generally smiley and happy but I worry she's not affectionate. If I ask her for a kiss, she will (sometimes) lean into me, but she never initiates affection herself.
I know she's still young, but I'm worrying myself crazy and I don't know if I should be more forceful and seek further help.
Dear Anon-- these are subtle differences that you point out, but I see why you feel her behavior is not completely typical. Do you have access to early intervention services? You might want to ask your pediatrician to refer you just on the basis of the crawling delay. Whether autism is an issue or not, there may be something she needs help with in her development of movement.
ReplyDeleteShe sounds as if she is quite social and can communicate well by pointing and having chase games. That would be an argument against autism. The presence or absence of stranger anxiety doesn't really speak to autism, but it is unusual that she has never displayed any by this age.
I am not surprised that she does not offer you a kiss, because babies generally don't do this unless they have been taught to.
If I were you, yes, I would ask about early intervention, if only to stop your worry and feeling of helplessness. But at the same time let me point out that toddlers who are diagnosed with autism often turn out to be developing quite typically a few years later.
Best of luck with this, and I hope to hear from you in the future that all is going well!
Dear Doctor. My son is 5 months old. And he is a really curious boy who want to stare every single details around him. And it is too difficult to take his attention. I try everything such as speaking in loud voice or slow singing while he is on lap or lying on his back etc. But generally i got only a glance about 3 sec. Max. İf i sing to him he holds his eyes a little bit more on my eyes with a serious face. İf I talk to him he is sometimes looks smiles and turns his head to look other things around him. Generally he doesnt hold for long periods. And these things generally happens when he is lying. Novadays he looks to his grandmom while he is on my lap. When he was 3 months old it was impossible to make him look at while he is being hold. On the contrary he contacts and tracks toys very well even if it is close or far.And sometimes i feel that he stares me while i am not looking at him. When i look him again he avoids his eyes.
ReplyDeleteHe constantly wants to be on my or anyones lap. he coos angryly and looks me in the eyes to take my attention. When i hold him everything looks ok. When i play peek a boo hi is smiling but i thing while we playing he is looking at my hands intead of my face. Sometimes i try to speak to him while my hands around my face than he looks a little bit longer. I dont understand The reason.
Besides His motor skills look good so far. Novadays he really consantrate on turning. He tries over and over... almost there...
I am afraid a lot about autism. I hope my son get over all these situations. Thanks for reply...
Dear Duygu-- I had to move your query to this page because there is no more room on the one you sent it to. I hope you will find this.
DeleteBabies do not gaze into people's eyes for no particular reason any more than adults do. Three seconds is a reasonable time. As for turning his head away, I wonder whether you are looking at him with a very serious, worried face or even a frown, which babies don;t like to look at. I expect he looks more at your face with your hands around it because it's unusual.
You've mentioned several points that are certainly NOT indications of autism. He tries to get your attention. He looks to his grandmother. He wants to be in someone's lap. These are not things autistic children do very much.
He is rather young to be playing peek-a-boo and I think he just finds it interesting that your hands are where your face usually is.
Don't be so impatient-- he is still a very young baby and he just is not ready to do a lot of things! In another month or two I think you will see a lot of changes.
Dear dr,
ReplyDeleteI have a query about my 4 month old daughter which would be helpful to get your insight on.
As it's my first child I just don't know how much eye contact she is expected to have with me. Whenever I pick her up she's always more interested in looking everywhere- she literally scans everything (my partner calls her cctv!) she's very curious about the world around her and wants to always be facing outwards looking around. I can however get her to look at me and give eye contact- I sing songs which is responds to and laughs. But not sure if this is enough- as its like I have to always try and get her attention as she would rather look around her. She also hates being restricted- e.g. In the car seat or even cuddles- she just wants to be able to see what's around her. I'm not sure if this is 'normal' behaviour or something to worry about. She coos and ahhs and you can have 'conversation' with her. Physically she is doing great. She can roll, hold her head up, reach and grasp objects and put them in her mouth. She's a very strong girl and even can sit up for a couple of seconds on her own. I guess I'm even more worried about things as her half brother is severely autistic and I'm not sure if there are the early subtle signs or just normal.
Would really appreciate your input. Thanks
Dear Anon-- I'm trying to answer this with intermittent Internet--I'll just say,sounds good tome!
DeleteLet me try again and maybe the Internet connection will last long enough to publish this. Some babies do like to look a lot and prefer to face outward for that. I know of no problems associated with that. Your baby is social and communicative, and her motor development is good-- these both suggest typical development at this point. I understand your concern because of the half-brother, but I'd say all is well.
DeleteMany babies hate to be restrained, and in the old days of people like John B. Watson doing baby experiments, they used restraining the arms as a way to make the babies angry-- it worked, too.
Dr. Mercer,
ReplyDeleteOver and over I see concerned parents. I know how they feel, because I was there. One thing I would say to all of them; if your child does end up being on the spectrum, it is not the end of the world. As you pointed out, Dr. Mercer, many are on the mild end. And while it may be a long time before you really know how autism may affect your child's functioning, and so you may worry sometimes, you really need to focus on your child as a child, and not so much as an autistic child. I know that's hard. But it's necessary for both you and your child. My daughter, who will be 3 next month, is likely mildly autistic, she has some sensory issues, Apraxia of Speech, but she's is an absolute delight to be around. She is so sweet, and kind, and can make eye contact, and tries to socialize. Does she have her "quirks?" Yes she does. Does she get frustrated with her difficulties communicating her wants/needs? Yes she does. Does her constant movement wear me out? Yep. But I wouldn't change her for the world. She's made my world a more beautiful place and while I may teach her lots of things, she's also taught me so much. So to all you parents out there, take a deep breath. Pay attention to your concerns, ask your kids' doctors, check with early intervention, but don't let your worries consume you. This period in their lives goes by way too fast to not take the time to enjoy it.
All very good points! An autistic person is... a person!
DeleteRITESH BHATIA has left a new comment on your post "Eye Contact With Babies: What, When, Why, and How":
ReplyDeleteHi Doc... My son is now 18 month. Below are the some points which I would like to share. Need your views and suggestion.
1) he don't see in our eyes.
2) always remain in within self...
3) says papa.. Baba... But not recognize. Mother and father.
4) never see us when we call him.
(see us only when we loud our voice).
5) cry when ever hear sudden loud voice.
Ritesh, I hope you find this answer. There is no more room on the page you sent your comment to.
DeleteDo you have a regular pediatrician or access to early intervention services? I think it is time for your son to be examined carefully for any physical or mental problems, including hearing and vision problems. Please do this if you possibly can.
Meanwhile, you need to talk and play with him as much as you can manage, using whatever kind of play seems to interest him most.
Good luck to your family!
Hi Ritesh, Hi Dr Mercer, I am no expert at all. But when the same thing happened to my now 20 year old cousin, they got her eyes checked and turns out the poor child was near blindness. Her eyesight was terrible and that was causing some of her issues. Once she got glasses, things got so much better. Knowing NOTHING about your case, Ritesh, I cannot say my counsel is good counsel by any means. But maybe worth asking your paediatrician if you haven't already?
DeleteAbsolutely worth it, and thanks so much for giving this good example!
DeleteHi Dr,
ReplyDeleteI came across your blog while searching online to get some reassurance about my daughters seeming lack of eye contact but all I have managed to do so far is get myself even more worried and worked up! I am a first time mother and I suffer with anxiety so I know I am more prone to obsessing over these things so I shouldn't "Google" symptoms but I have! Any help/advice you are able to give me would be very much appreciated.
My daughter is 11 weeks old and there are a few things I am worried about:
1) she doesn't look at me while breastfeeding. Sometimes she will close her eyes or her eyelids will flutter, other times she just stares at my arm or off at something else behind me. I have tried making sounds to get her attention, calling her name and physically turning her head towards me but her eyes will remain firmly anywhere else but looking at me. When my husband gives her a bottle of milk he says she does the same although will sometimes look at him. When I am breastfeeding however, if my husband comes over, she will sometimes make eye contact with him.
2) she won't look at me when I hold her on my knee facing me. If I try and move my face into her line of sight to "force" her to look at me she will turn her head in the opposite direction and will keep doing this each time I move my face to get her to look at me. Sometimes she will start crying.
3) sometimes I will catch her staring at a blank wall and smiling
4) she does smile but we seem to have to work quite hard to get her to do it and when she does smile at someone she often looks away just before she actually smiles
5) she has started cooing but does not do it often (couple of times each day perhaps).
6) she prefers to be held either over my shoulder or in front of me facing away from me.
7) she seems to spend a lot of time staring off into space.
A few things that she does do however... She plays really well on her playmat and bats at the toys and will happily stare at herself in the mirror that is attached to it. She will sometimes look at me when she is laying down for a nappy change (today I actually managed to keep her gaze for a good 30 secs to 1 minute while making funny faces and I got a few smiles). She does seem to take notice of new faces (but difficult to see if she is making much eye contact). The back of my phone has patterns on it so when I take a picture she stares at it and will follow the phone if I move it. She responds to sounds and will usually turn her head if you shake something next to her. She will look for me across the room and will follow me as I walk around. She likes tummy time and can roll over from front to back.
I did also see today that when her daddy was holding her she was staring up at his face for a good couple of minutes but when he handed her to me she avoided my face again. Could it just be my face that she doesn't like?!
Not sure if this is relevant but she has prolonged jaundice and has had several blood tests to ensure the bilirubin levels are decreasing (which they are but are still raised).
I appreciate that it may still be far too early for signs of autism but I just wanted to know if any of these behaviours would be considered "red flags" as I am making myself sick with worry reading articles which list out signs to watch out for that seem to contain these behaviours.
Apologies for the length of my post and thank you so much for taking the time to read it.
Thank you
Jo
Hi Jo--
DeleteIt does sound to me as if you are making yourself sick with worry! If you have had problems with depression or anxiety in the past, or if you continue to suffer from this much anxiety, do please see whether your doctor can recommend someone for you to talk to, just to get you through this difficult period of time. I know this is confusing, because young mothers do normally worry quite a lot, but it sounds to me as if you are putting much too much energy into this.
Let me just start with the idea that your baby does not like your face. Babies don't care what people look like, thank goodness! They like friendly-looking people, and as time goes on they like familiar people. I am not sure what is happening with your situation, but I would guess that either 1. you are so worried that you think she doesn't look at you, or 2. you look serious and worried when you look at her, and she does not like to look at that, or 3. it was just chance that she looked at your husband a lot on that occasion.
If you try to make her look at you (or anything else) she is bound not to like that, as she is not yet very good at just ignoring things she's not interested in at the moment. If you look stressed and serious, especially, she may not want to see that expression (and it's a sign of good development if that's the case).
As for a baby this age looking at someone who is feeding her, well-- on the whole, they don't. If you are expecting her to imitate those romanticized ads where the baby is gazing raptly at the nursing mother, just ask yourself how many shots the photographer had to take before getting that one. We adults convince ourselves that breastfeeding is a great flow of soul between mother and baby and the way attachment occurs, etc., etc., but in fact for the 11-week-old baby it's just how you get food.
I do understand that the jaundice got things off to a bad start for you and continues to frighten you, but everything you say sounds to me as if she's doing very well. I feel like telling you to relax but I know quite well no one can do this on command! However, I hope you will think over what I said about excessive anxiety and decide whether you need a bit of extra help to deal with your feelings right now.
Here is a question from Anonymous which I moved over from the crowded page where she left it. I hope she will find this.
ReplyDeleteHello dr,
My baby boy was born SGA.born at 36 weeks while his gestational age was 37and 5 days.
He looks at me (sometyms)when i m standing but hardly looks into my eyes while being held or on my lap.
His cousin is autistic
My question is does sga has to do something with his poor eye contact?he is now 3 months old
Dear Anonymous-- I am a little confused about what you've said about his gestational age, but I gather that he was preterm as well as small for gestational age. It's not surprising that you are concerned about these various risk factors.
The issue about his SGA status is really about why he was not well-grown. Has he been tested for prenatal infections like toxoplasmosis and cytomegalovirus? Infections like those can cause visual problems that could possibly be the source of what you are observing.
From what you said, I think you are most concerned about autism, and it's true that having the autistic cousin does raise the chances of this a little. However, your baby is much, much too young for autism to be apparent or diagnosed, and the behavior you describe is within the normal range for a baby this young.
If you can have his vision tested, I think that would be a good idea. If there are visual problems it would help him to start using corrective lenses before he is many months older.
Good luck to your family!
Hi Dr. Mercer,
ReplyDeleteFirst, I am specifically writing to tell you thank you for your work to help parents feel less burdened by the weight of our own anxieties, often brought about by what we don't know, and what the internet tells us when we google our fears at 3am. I was just that new mama! My daughter who will be 20 weeks this Friday, and is the absolute joy of my life, has blossomed over the past month. Before this, I was sick with worry that she had autism or any other number of developmental delays as many parents in your comment sections also worry about. I was so busy comparing her to other babies her age. A friend of mine once told me, "Comparison is the thief of joy." This was profoundly true for me. I could not fully enjoy my daughter just the way she was. And what she was, and is, is a little girl who has developed and met milestones in her own time.
She would give a passing glance around 11 weeks, but even then I had to really work for it and it was only if you were a certain distance from her face. She gave her first smile around this time as well, but again, I had to REALLY work for it. She seemed rather disengaged and not very interested in socializing. She also would not bat at or grasp at toys, she actually ignored them even when held right in her line of sight. She seemed to be at a standstill in making progress in this area until week 16 when she really blossomed. She began making eye contact very effectively, started smiling on her own without me making an effort to get her to do so. She found her first chuckle at 17 weeks and her first belly laugh at 18 weeks. She discovered her hands around week 17 as well and now grasps at and bats at her toys to her great amusement. I'm detailing this to show that it really can take our little ones time to learn how to socialize and learn. She, I believe, chose to observe and absorb her new world as long as she needed to (which was longer than every development milestone book/blog/website ect., listed it should take) before she was really to actively engage in it.
Additionally, I, like some of your readers, struggled with post-partum anxiety. My daughter’s pediatrician referred me to get help, which I did. Incidentally, once I had begun taking anxiety medication and seeing a therapist and started feeling considerably better, my daughter also began to blossom. Whether my emotions had an effect on her or not, I'm not sure, but I think it's worth being aware of.
Anyhow, thanks again for your blog! I actually found it while I was googling "8 week old not making eye contact" and came across several “red flags about autism” sites and forums full of anxious moms worrying about the same thing. One mom posted a link to your blog and how much it helped to relieve her excessive worry and I'm forever grateful to have found you through her!
Dear Nikki-- thank you so much, first for your kind words, second for your telling your story in a way that I am sure will be a great comfort to some anxious mothers.
DeleteOne of the problems with "the book" as a source of information for mothers is that these sources give averages but almost never refer to the earliest and the latest ages for a "milestone" that are in the normal range. They also fail to say that many babies do something once or twice, then don't do it again for months and months-- for some reason the conditions were right on the first occasions, even though the baby wasn't really ready to do the action in any but ideal circumstances. The fact is that the age ranges and patterns of development for actions have not been very well researched on the whole-- I wish we could put some Ph.D. students to work on filling in this gap in knowledge.
I also want to say that I wish we didn't use the word "milestone". It is not really a very good metaphor for describing development, and it has such a final sound to it. We need something else to describe how babies progress from not being able to do something, to doing it sometimes and under ideal conditions, to finally completely mastering a skill.
BTW, I think you are right that some babies watch and consider for a long time before they try something, while others don't mind trying unsuccessfully for quite a while. I can't back up this statement with research, but I do share your impression.
I also think your point about how your treatment helped encourage your daughter's development is an excellent one. We think about treating depression and anxiety as something that's done for an individual, but it can help the whole family, babies and young children above all.
Best regards, and best wishes for continuing happy life with your daughter!
That you so much for your response Dr. Mercer! I couldn't agree with you more regarding the use of the term "milestone." I do think that a change in the vernacular would have a positive effect on the way we view a babies development. My daughter, Naomi, seems to prefer doing something once or twice and then waiting a while (weeks even) before she'll try it again. I've learned that's just her way.
ReplyDeleteI wish sources would do what you said and highlight the early and later times that you might see a new skill emerge. For instance, her latest skill is making the razzing sound, however, she first started that at week 16, she did it constantly for a week, and doesn't do it but once every several days now. Unlike before, I'm not longer concerned because I'll know she'll pick it back up when she wants to/is ready to. She seems to want to be successful at something before she either tries it or continues doing it. I really love her little inquisitive nature.
On a personal note, I just recently finished my Masters in Counseling (so I really knew the value of getting help when I needed it), and I've really been enjoying reading your blog as a whole not just the posts about babies and their development. Continue the great work; you're a great resource!
Thanks again-- when I get a chance I would really like to post your comments on a new page so they're easily seen--I think what you have to say would be heartening for many new mothers.
DeleteI don't really know whether people
read these comments, that's the trouble.
Please do!
ReplyDeleteI did, but what a struggle-- this blog thing does not like to deal with material that's not in its usual format! It just kept on cutting off half your words. Okay now, I think.
DeleteHi Dr. Iv been following your blog for some time esp they eye contact bit and finally decided to post my query. My 1 yr old sometimes has very good eye contact and sometimes fleeting. Usually doesnt make good eye contact with the person holding him but looks at others well. From a distance eye contact seems good but not from close. He also looks elsewhere usually when being breastfed. Also he has a fair bit of separation and stranger anxiety. He takes time to warm up to strangers. He doesnt cry but just stays reserved.as a baby he was happy and smily now hes become reserved. Also he enjoys looking and even babbling with other kids but plays independently but i think thats normal in this age?
ReplyDeleteHe is quite independent and loves doing things himself. Otherwise hes ok. Points, babbles, says a few words. Im just worried about his eye contact and a bit about his independent behaviour. Googling only brings up autism. Waiting anxiously for your reply
Sorry i forgot to add that he loves opening and closing doors and turning lights on and off. Does that come under repititive behaviour? Also he ignores us when hes busy in mischief and doesnt respond to name. He understands no but doesnt obey. Is it normal for his age?
ReplyDeleteThis all sounds okay to me, for his age.
DeleteI expect that you also, like other normal adults, do not make intense eye contact at every opportunity! Most eye contact is pretty fleeting, and in any case it's not magic, but a way human beings have of "pointing" to things and understanding where someone else is looking, what they know, etc. think of the gaze as a tool for communication, not for "making soul contact", and I think you'll feel better.
Separation and stranger anxiety are a good indication that you've enabled him to become emotionally attached to you. They are normal and actually desirable at this age. I have always joked that I would like to create a greeting card that says "Congratulations, your baby was afraid of a stranger today!" Pointing, babbling, and saying some words are all tight on the mark for his developmental age, too.
As for repetitive behaviors, typically-developing babies do this a lot more than seems good to adults-- it's the way they learn at their age. ignoring you when "busy" and disobeying "no" are also par for the course, and it takes a while for parents to develop their skills at managing a newly independent child. But you will learn, and so will he.
Playing near but not with other kids, parallel play, something you will be seeing for at least another year.
So why do you see some of these things listed as signs of autism? Because they are signs-- IN OLDER CHILDREN. Autism manifests as a set of developmental delays in which children continue to show the behavior of earlier ages, or return to their earlier behavior. What is normal for the one-year-old is not normal for the two- or three-year-old, just as the milk-focused diet of a 6-month-old would not be normal or healthy for a two-year-old.
Good luck with your very typical little boy! Unless you see him still doing the same things a year from now, you can relax a bit (oops, until he pulls the tablecloth off the table).
Thankyou soo much for your prompt reply. God bless you
ReplyDeleteHello doctor,
ReplyDeleteI really want to thank you for this blog and to have an objective perspective about eye contact.
I have a 3.5 month old boy and I have been worring about him these last months.
He is not good at making eye contact, he will just look at me only by a certain distance, never when I am close to him. When he is laying on his back he will make good eye contact, for about 3 seconds or less. We will look at me and smile. He rarely makes eye contact when i am holding him, but will look and smile at others in the room. Sometimes when a new face looks at him, he will start crying.
When i am brestfeeding him he will stop sucking and gave me a look and smile, everything very briefly.
He likes looking at his 3 year old brother who is ALWAYS in constant movement. He will follow his movements and gets very excites and smile.
When I go to pick him up from his crib and talk to him, he smiles and moves his arms and legs, but never looks at me in the eyes.
I have discovered that if I wait a few seconds, he will find my face and give me a look.
I know that if I read how I describe him, there is no much to worry about, and I should no compare, but my first son was so good at making eye contact, that is quite impossible not to compare. I worry about autism, I know he is very young to notice it, but I cannot stop worrying. Maybe is just a matter of temperament, he looks always so relaxed and is always in a good mood, he barely cries.
Please, I just want to know your comments. Thank you!
I know you are worried and uncomfortable, but I don't think that anything you see is a problem. Keep in mind that babies typically look at mouths as well as eyes, but it's much harder for us to tell when they look at our mouths. It sounds to me as if your son is searching your face for interesting details and he finally gets to your eyes. babies of this age usually don't hold eye contact for very long at a time. The fact that he stops nursing and smiles at you is very positive and shows how social he is.
DeleteThis baby and his brother are different people and will behave differently. Also, your first child had only the adults to look at and socialize with, and this one has a very active and interesting older brother so he doesn't need to look at you so much!
Hello Dr. Mercer,
ReplyDeleteI wanted to get your insight on my 3.5 month old son. I have been constantly worrying about autism and it's affecting my day to day life constantly worrying about it, as I just really want the best for him!
My concerns are mainly with eye contact. When being held or in a sitting position he absolutely refuses to make eye contact. If I put my face where he is looking, he immediately turns his head the other way. He is also constantly turning his head and looking all around the room. (Not sure if maybe he is just really interested in his surroundings?) He does however make decent eye contact while laying down in front of me, and can usually hold it for awhile in this position... another concern is, he doesn't really smile back everytime I smile at him. Everything I read online says they should smile back everytime that they are smiled at.. He usually just stares at me with no expression when I give him big smiles. It's really heart breaking to me. Also, he doesn't coo or babble much. He might say "goooo" like 5 times a day and that's it.. And my last concern is that he doesn't make any eye contact while breast feeding. He usually just stares at the wall or my breast. I try to get his attention to look up at me but he never does. My mom however says that he stares at her the whole time she is feeding him his bottles? Please give me your thoughts on these issues as I am so so worried about autism. It's so disheartening when you see your friends babies gazing at and giving big grins to their parents, and mine hates looking at me. :(
Sorry not to have answered you before-- I think you were trying to post on a page that is completely filled up already.
DeleteI don't know what you've been reading on line, but I can't imagine that any baby will smile every time you smile at him-- any more than any adult smiles whenever he or she is smiled at!
Babies often make eye contact a lot more when bottle-feeding than when breast-feeding. I know you've seen lots of soft-focus pictures where nursing mother and baby are gazing into each other's eyes, but that's not reality. For one thing, the baby's head has to be turned toward your breast to nurse, while the bottle-feeding baby is held face-up and the bottle is put in the right place. This means that looking at a face is more difficult for the breast-feeder than the bottle-feeder. BTW, you can't really tell what someone else's baby is looking at when being held.
Wouldn't it annoy you if someone kept putting their face between you and what you're trying to look at? I expect it annoys babies too.
I don't see anything especially unusual in what you are describing. Your baby's behavior and preferences probably are more a matter of temperament than of developmental problems or his attitude toward you. Not all babies grin a lot, just as many adults don't, but they still have perfectly normal personalities. Babies have their individual differences just like the rest of us.
I am really more concerned about the way you seem to be feeling than about your baby's development. He does not hate looking at you just because he does not look as much as you'd like! I wonder whether you have talked to your OB/GYN about assessment for depression. A lot of young mothers experience some temporary mood problems in the first year or so of their baby's life, and when they do, they often experience these problems as anxiety about the baby's development, often focusing on autism or on the baby "not liking" them, as you seem to be doing. There is good treatment for this kind of mood disorder, and it might help you not only to be happier but to take a more balanced view of your baby's development.
I would really like to hear from you about what you think about this suggestion, and I hope you will follow through and consult with your OB/GYN, who is probably well-trained to assess the causes of any mood problems you may have.
So sorry I am just now getting back to you... I am just now seeing your response!
DeleteAn update: I tried to stop worrying about it so much... and things got a 'little bit' better.. he is almost 6 months now, and he will look at me sometimes. But still not as much as I feel like I see other babies looking at their mothers? Specially when I'm holding him he refuses to look at me. He prefers to stare past me at the wall.. is that common, or concerning? He will look at me when I'm not holding him though, i.e. in his bouncer or jumper...
Everyone always comments "he is so shy" ... is it possible for babies to be "shy" ? It's so concerning now that other people are noticing things like that as well.. when he goes to smile at someone, he will give a little grin then turn his head like he is being "bashful" and that's when people say "aww he is so shy"..
I just see friends posting videos of their babies all smiley and playing with their parents so much, and I feel like mine hardly does that at all.. I keep thinking he will start to some day, but I'm really not sure.
Hope to hear back from you soon. And I promise to check in sooner then 2 months from now! Lol
Also, when he is in his crib and I am trying to calm him down to go back to sleep, or even when I just lay him in there and try to talk to him a little bit before he goes to sleep, he will refuse to look at me. He moves his head all around to look everywhere else, but never at me? Does that not sound a little concerning to you?
ReplyDeleteHi Brooke-- please understand that I can only guess about this, as I have not only not seen your baby but don't even have a lot of information about what he's doing most of the time. However, I would describe his behavior with your friends as flirtatious, not shy, if I saw it in a baby just a little older. Your friends may use the word "shy" because they don't like the sense that the baby doesn't respond a lot to them, and they attribute whats happening to the baby's own characteristics in a way they understand.
ReplyDeleteJust like adults, babies most often make fleeting eye contact, then break it and look away. They don't gaze for long into people's eyes, and they avoid a stare by looking away. Also, they are interested in people but in lots of other things too.
I would interpret your baby's behavior as characteristic of his own personality rather than a developmental problem. Babies are born with temperaments that help shape how they respond to other people and to the rest of the world. Some are "slow to warm up" to new people or events-- could that be part of what you see happening? Temperament is biologically determined and not a result of the baby's experiences, so you have to work with it, not against it.
I would suggest that you might try following up on what he seems to want to look at. If he's looking at something, carry him over to it and look at it together-- touch it and talk about it. That way of interacting with him may be one that suits him and gives pleasure to both of you.
Keep in mind that there's more than one way for a person to do well at any age, and more than one way of playing or interacting that can be fun and nurturing.
I am really more concerned about your anxiety than about what's happening with this baby. Is there someone at your OB/GYN's office who could talk to you about your anxious feelings and suggest some help if needed?
Hello Dr. Mercer!
ReplyDeleteMy name is Maria and I have concerns about my daughter that are very similar to the ones Brooke described in her post. My girl is 11 weeks and 3 days old, she was born at term, no health problems. I am really worried about her social development. She is not a very smiley baby, she rarely smiles at objects. She smiles at me or her father more, but definitely not all the time, like babies I have seen on videos. I keep reading everywhere that babies prefer faces to everything else, but that's just not the case with Sophia. It is much easier to get her attention with a bright rattle or even my wiggling fingers than with my face. She does track me when I move around the room next to her cot. If I get into her field of view, she might make eye contact for a little bit, and track my face, but really not for long. She also does this thing, where she looks at me, smiles and quickly turns away. She also looks down and to the side often, but she might be looking at her hand, it is hard to tell. Sometimes she looks at me when I feed her bottles, sometimes she doesn't. She likes to keep her eyes half-closed when eating, but if I move my face, I can see her eyes following me.I only get those moments when she is fully awake and clearly interested in my face for several minutes a couple of times a day. She also smiles at my face and coos when she is ready to go to sleep and I hold her. But those smiles feel a little strange to me, as she is very different from her active self when she does them, and she also alternates them with this weird frown expression. She does track my face in that state, so she's probably not asleep. Also, she does not stare into my eyes, but rather looks over all my face. I wear glasses with really dark frame, and I am blonde with light eyes, so maybe that interferes a bit..
I also don't think she's copying any of my expressions just yet. She is rather content baby, she can just hang out in the living room with us, looking around and making random cooing noises for half an hour (I don't have the heart to experiment and find out how long she can really stay without any attention from us, we come up to her and talk, or show her stuff). She doesn't really have any reaction to the touch other than being picked up yet (she stops crying if I pick her up)
My biggest fear is obviously autism. I have been diagnosed with postpartum anxiety, but cannot afford therapy right now.
Dear Maria-- I'm sorry you are so worried, and I am fairly confident that your anxiety rather than the baby's development is the problem. Scanning your face carefully and looking, then looking away are perfectly normal for this age. Babies do not gaze into their mother's eyes for long periods and more than adults gaze for long periods into the eyes of other adults. I know you see pictures of babies doing this, but they never tell you how long the photographer had to wait before getting that shot!
ReplyDeleteShe sounds attentive to you and normally interested in the world in general, in other words, even though she is too young to really tell, there is nothing here I could identify as resembling autism.
Have you had anti-anxiety medication prescribed? That is often a good way to break through these preoccupying concerns, and might be helpful even if you were to b begin psychotherapy.
Thank you very much for your reply! Over the last couple of days she actually started to pay more attention to my face, she sometimes really stares at me especially when I am talking or eating, but now she smiles a little less. Must be personality, serious babies run in the family.
DeleteI have been prescribed Zofran (I was exhibiting depressive symptoms as well when OB evaluated me), but I am hesitant to take it. I have seen people become very dependent on that kind of medication.
It's easy for depressed people to think they don't want to use medication-- they feel that the depressed self is "real" and that any improved mood would lose some part of themselves.
DeleteHello again Dr. Mercer!
DeleteOver the last couple of months Sophia has improved her eye contact (she even went through a period of staring at me on regular basis, and then got more interested in the world around her, but she still often holds my gaze for 3-4 seconds easily, which, I guess, is reasonable (she's 5 months old). She now smiles almost every time she sees my face, laughs out loud if I act unusually or make a stupid face and laughs when her dad plays peek-a boo with her (I don't think she gets the idea behind the game yet, it's probably him appearing suddenly that is funny to her). My concern now is her reaction to my voice. Around 3 months old she started to look for source of sound. At first, she looked more readily for my voice, but now she will more often turn her head if she hears random people talking in the courtyard. She only responds if I call her name about half of the time and sometimes ignores me completely until I either get into her field of view or make a commotion. Other times she might not turn to me but smile when she hears me call her name. I know she can hear me because when we play this version of hide and seek, and I hide behind the table or her crib and call, she'll turn right away. But as soon as she's tired of the game, she'll start doing her own thing. Sometimes she'll react to me suddenly changing the tone of speech, but even that has been getting less of a reaction. Could it be that she's learning to tune me out (I guess I am bothering her sometimes, as I am still anxious and I tend to try and test her abilities frequently) or should I be worried?
She also doesn't like strangers very much and sometimes ignores them when try to talk to her in her stroller. She loves being on her tummy, rolled back to front at 3.5 months, but rarely rolls front to back even when she's tired. She's extremely interested in whatever I have in my hands, tries really hard to reach items and scoots forward and s
sideways on her stomach, although she's very slow. She can't sit on her own but keeps trying. She babbles with consonants, but doesn't chain many sounds together, it's more like single syllables, for example, she'll say "ba! eh! oh!". She also tracks me and my dad walking around the room really well, I was actually surprised she could see at those angles.
As for Zoloft, it didn't fit me and actually made me worse, I have started having panic attacks. for now the only thing that keeps me afloat is talking to my mother and sister-in-law, but they live overseas.
Thank you very much for your work and taking time to provide all this information. Baby books often sound confusing and even contradictory.
Sophia sounds to me like a very fine baby! She is working on doing a lot of new things, and she can decide what she wants to pay attention to rather than being "forced" by her sensory experience. She wants to know about new things, so she pays more attention to strange voices outside than to your voice. I think you should NOT be worried, but you ARE worried, so the question is what to do about that, not what to do about Sophia. There are medications other than Zoloft that might help you. I don't know where you are living, but if you have access to any kind of support group or to a counselor who can work with you I think that would be most helpful. Does your doctor know you stopped the Zoloft? Can he or she suggest any other medication or put you in touch with a counselor? it seems as if you very much need someone understanding to talk to as well as your mother and sister-in-law.
DeleteDear Jean Mercer,
ReplyDeleteplease help me. I have a 10 weeks old son and he is my first child. He is very sociable, making eye contact since he was a month old,giving social smiles not much later and cooing that would melt an iceberg. He is also very happy baby, crying only when he is overtired and can't fall asleep. Since some time now (2 weeks maybe) he seems to ignore me. Before he would lay on my knees, smile and "talk" to me for as long as my legs could hold him. (I don't remember anything happening in particular that would be the cause. I had problems with forceful let down on my right breast, but we had this problem from the beginning and it didn't seem to affect our relationship.) Now he would look at me briefly, return smiles occasionally, and will only stay interested in me for little time, this is nothing compared to the attention he will give to people visiting or his father, he seems interested in them as much as ever. At first I didn't think much of this (I'm not even sure when it started exactly), I just thought he needs more interesting things to look at, but as it goes on and I see him smile and "talk" to others one minute and then just turns away when I speak to him, I'm starting to feel left out and sometimes it makes me really sad. I'd just like to see those smiling eyes staring at me more often. Is it because we spent so much time with each other? Is this normal baby behavior? I read on other forums about babies ignoring their parents but none is this young? I would like to do something to spark his interest in me, but I also see he needs time to explore/be by himself, and want to respect this time, so I don't force myself in his view.. i don't know.. am I over reacting? ..or over thinking..
Greetings from Slovenia.
Sasa
Dear Sasa-- I am sure you realize that I can't see your baby and can only go on what you tell me-- so I am speculating here! But this is what I speculate: between 2 and 3 months most babies go through a "shift"after which they become much more attentive to new events and get distracted even from nursing by people talking or moving around them. They seem much more aware of the whole world, not just what's happening near them right now. This is a good step forward developmentally, and it does not mean that they no longer care about a person they used to seem intensely involved with. It feels like a little bit of a loss to you when what felt like intimacy is reduced, but there are so many new things that will happen and they will be just as fascinating to you as that "new baby" time.
DeleteIf you want to try to get the baby's attention, you can often do that by making exaggerated faces, opening your eyes and mouth wide while he is looking at you, playing simple tickle games, and imitating sounds or movements he makes. Think about whether your face looks blank or anxious when he looks away from you and try not to let it look that way... but as you say he needs time to do things by himself and it's very good that you respect that.
I am also wondering whether you have recently started to feel some anxiety and depression in a general way and whether that is why you are
feeling worried right now. This may not be a problem, I can't tell, but some women beginning to experience mood disorders several months after a baby is born, not right away. If you think that might be what is happening, your doctor may be able to suggest some treatment that could help you keep your equilibrium while you find your ways of being a mother.
If I were you I wouldn't get too engaged with those parent forums. They are bound to be full of people saying how difficult things are and asking for help, and it's really easy to come to think that your baby has a problem just because of what you read. It's kind of like "medical student's disease"where people feel they have the symptoms of every disorder they studt.
To sum up,my guess is that this is normal behavior, but if you are feeling anxious and a bit depressed, it might be a big help for you to talk to someone about it. Good luck!
Hi, my Lainey just tunred 5 months old. I have three other children ages 17,13 and 7. She is not a very social child, she avoids eye contact most of the time but can hold her gaze for a minute or two at a time if she feels like it. She babbles to herself or the t.v. (which I don't let her watch) but not much to us. She does look at people in the room but looks away when you look at her. She avoids faces in the books we read and the mirror. Like I said, she can look though and some days she does. Well on the days she does she just started to scream unless it's one of mu kids or me or my husband. I thought it was to early for stranger danger? I must note that uts not all the time, just when she is tired. Early intervention is involved and we are now working on trying to get her to want to touch my face, however she has no interest in that. Laat week she finally started putting things in her mouth and only will babble if something is touching her mouth. She showed excitement for the first time last week and rarely laughs. She doesnt like to cuddle with me and will watch tv all the time if I let her, which I dont. She just doesnt seem to like people, especially if she is tired. Are there any ways you can think of for me to get her attention and for her to coo at us? Btw physically she is right on track, assisted sitting, tummy time, strong neck and head control. I have a nephew who is non verbal at age 5 and she reminds me of him a lot. Very content being by herself, not crying unless shes hungry, stares at her and our hands a lot and the tv a lot.I just see so many similarities and sometimes think I am crazy but my sister sees it them too. I understand you never met her but am hopinh for some advice on how to engage with her more so she learns to speak and interact, I feel this age their brains grow so much and I want to help her in every way possible!
ReplyDeleteSorry not to answer this earlier-- I was out of town--
DeleteDo you really mean she isn't allowed to watch TV? You seem to mention her interest in TV a great deal. I would certainly advise keeping it entirely away from her.
You don't mention the reason for early intervention? It would be unusual to have EI so early unless there are reasons beyond what you are saying here. I am not sure what having her touch your face would be intended for, although certainly a lot of babies do that when they are a bit older than 5 months.
There are babies who simply do not vocalize very much but develop normal speech-- I just want to remind you of this, not to downplay your concerns. I am not sure whether you really mean she babbles (sounds that are syllable-like, such as ba and ma) or whether she coos (long vowel sounds like ooooo).
I also don't understand how you can tell whether she looks at faces in books.
My suggestion is that there should be no screen use around her. Also, you can try playing and attracting her attention by opening your mouth and eyes wide while approaching her face, then closing them as you back away. Do this several times in succession and it may get her interest. Make sure that there is light on your face so she can see you well.
I'm sure your house is noisy with all the kids, but try to have some quiet time when she hears you talking to her, every day.
As for screaming at strangers, if it only happens when she's tired, I'd guess that she is not responding to stranger danger but just to someone who doesn't look or act like the people she is most used to. Even younger babies sometimes respond that way to people who just don't do things the way they are used to.
You may simply be seeing some personality differences here, but only time will tell that, I'm afraid. I also want to ask you to think about whether you are experiencing some mood problems that may cause you to worry more about this child than is perhaps necessary. If that seems possible to you, your OB/GYN may be able to suggest help. And again, whatever it was that brought EI into the picture may be a factor here.
my baby is only 5 months. I know something is just different. Very little eye contact, completely shuts down if we are not at home and in a noisy environment, when she does look at faces for to long starts to scream and cry, refuses to look in the mirror or at pictures of others, doesnt seem to "like" me but will look as my kids walk through the room, rarely smiles, rarely laughs, likes being by herself over being held, never cries to be picked up and never cried unless hungry. Now she fusses if she is tired. Used to make a lot of sounds, now only makes one, talks to herself when her hands are in her mouth, stares at hands a lot (I believe thats normal at this age) jumps at noises even someone coughing, like I said, she is just sooo different than all my other ones....everyone keeps saying she will be fine, which I think bothers me more than anything else. She is has hit most of her milestones but has hit them very late, except for physically, she is on track. Some days she responds well and others its like she cant make eye contact or socialize at all. If I let her she would watch tv all day so she has no screen time at all. I know you can't really diagnose anything due to age and being your not here but I was wondering if you could give me an opinion and anything I can do to get her attention and hold it. Smiling is not reward enough for her to continue to look at us. I could use some good exercises I can do with her so she can not be so overwhelmed and can learn from us. Thanks so much!
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if you are the same person as above, but if you are not, my answers would be about the same as above.
DeleteHi, when is it normal for child to wave? My daughter is one year old and she maybe waved 3 times. She is clapping her hands, sometimes giving high five, she is pointing- with whole hand, not with just one finger yet. She tries to put her shoes on by herself - is that imitating? As an infant I felt she wasn't good at making eye contact. I still feel like she is not such good at this but noone told me anything about it- even our peadetrician. This commercials with baby gazing in their mother eyes keep me feeling bad because I dont have such an experiance with my daughter. I had problems with anxiety after her birth, and still am. Google makes me sick, autism is all that can be seen when you try to find some reassurance. I feel that she is allright, but my concerns are still present in some way. She says mama and dada to right parents, she likes to cuddle and being held, she is affraid of strangers, she likes to be with kids, she is dancing when she hears a song, she responds to her name. But this eye contact. I feel like there is a major concern among some parents as there is always a connection to autism and generally not having pages like this where you can read things like - babies have different tempers and this is normal...etc. thanx for your comments. Best regards
ReplyDeleteHow about commercials where women laugh and sing while they mop? That's not my life experience and I would bet it's not yours-- so just keep that in mind when you look at those gazing babies as caught in a brief moment by a photographer! Your baby sounds terrific to me.
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ReplyDeleteNot sure if you are still checking these but I have a concern for my almost 10 month old. He will make eye contact with us when sitting in front of us, in his high chair and from a distance but will make no eye contact (actively avoids it) while holding up, on my lap (facing me) and when I hold him up in the air for airplane "play". He rarely responds to his name as well.
He does "play" chase with his brother, comes to cuddle with me, smiles at me when I enter a room and is babbling consonant-vowels. He is beginning to point but that's a bit inconsistent. He gestures for me to pick him up and follows the demand "give me". He has met all physical milestones early on (currently walking). The eye contact and name thing, together, are bothering me. I had him evaluated and he did not qualify.
Thoughts on this?