tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post5318388589681635355..comments2024-03-12T07:00:44.143-04:00Comments on CHILDMYTHS: "Victorious Occultism": Unconscionable Treatment of Infants in Russia, and Matching Attitudes in the U.S.Jean Mercerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14619393019771381980noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-58651796239985227132014-09-04T08:08:27.484-04:002014-09-04T08:08:27.484-04:00I don't think one has to be Russian to forget ...I don't think one has to be Russian to forget the pain of childbirth. We are all fortunate to be able to forget pain and not be able to imagine it when it is not happening. But you're right, this is not good evidence that there was no pain at the time.Jean Mercerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619393019771381980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-91747572165212957682014-09-04T07:56:02.821-04:002014-09-04T07:56:02.821-04:00I think it is not necessary to believe Russian wom...I think it is not necessary to believe Russian women if they say "It does not hurt." <br />Self-sacrifice is a part of Russian culture. Women are capable of great suffering and do not consider it necessary to complain if there was a successful outcome. It is necessary to talk to women who have had bad water birth. If the child is healthy but the woman is forced to be treated for a long time after these genera ...... she would say that everything was OK.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216186566325024578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-4484948576487000502013-12-17T16:59:10.879-05:002013-12-17T16:59:10.879-05:00Thanks for this information! I will be commenting ...Thanks for this information! I will be commenting on the connection between Charkovsky's beliefs and ideas like "lotus birth". The placenta is the "eighth chakra", they say. Jean Mercerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619393019771381980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-79272864526972742392013-12-17T16:47:03.547-05:002013-12-17T16:47:03.547-05:00I should say a bit about American's homebirth ...I should say a bit about American's homebirth midwives.<br /><br />Most are "Certified Professional Midwives" (CPMs) who are essentially lay midwives. (They should NOT be confused with Europe's midwives or America's nurse midwives who have formal training and experience.) CPMs need only follow around other CPMs for a few dozen deliveries and take a certification exam. They claim to be "experts in natural births." It is likely they have little or no significant experience with handling emergencies, which is the most important reason for having a birth attendant. <br /><br />Our lay midwives, like those in Russia, tend to be religiously or ideologically motivated; many are radical feminists who consider transferring a laboring woman to the "male-dominated" medical system or have a c-section to be a "failed birth." <br /><br />CPMs claim their practices are cheaper and safer than hospital care. The Midwife Association of North America has collected years' of data on the perinatal mortality rate of their member CPMs, but is not releasing that data. One state, Colorado, is required to collect data on CPMs as a condition of re-registration, revealing that their perinatal death rate has reached 15 times what should be expected of uncomplicated pregnancies.<br /><br />CPMs have a host of bizarre beliefs and practices, including: <br /><br />* Offering laboring women only homeopathics for pain and refusing their requests to be transferred to a hospital.<br /><br />* "Power birth": telling the woman to begin pushing when she is only 5cm dilated.<br /><br />* "Placenta medicine": Charging around $100 to make the placenta into capsule form to ease postpartum blues, and aid other conditions. <br /><br />* "Lotus birth": Not cutting the umbilical cord, but carrying it around with the infant until it drops off on its own in a couple weeks. CPMs give hints on how to deal with the smell.<br /><br />Colorado state disciplinary records indicated that CPMs lack the most basic knowledge of OB, e.g. two CPMs did nothing about spikes in blood pressure in women who apparently went on to develop a life-threatening condition called preeclampsia. <br /><br />For more information, see "Hurt by Homebirth" website has personal stories:<br />http://hurtbyhomebirth.blogspot.com/LindaRosaRNhttp://www.scienceinmedicine.org/fellows/Rosa.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-21182519948905981052013-12-17T16:08:02.870-05:002013-12-17T16:08:02.870-05:00Thanks, Linda, for the RN viewpoint. I will be say...Thanks, Linda, for the RN viewpoint. I will be saying more tomorrow about the belief systems behind some of these misguided practices.Jean Mercerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619393019771381980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-60725653760226100182013-12-17T15:55:38.175-05:002013-12-17T15:55:38.175-05:00To see a very disturbing home birth via hot tub, w...To see a very disturbing home birth via hot tub, where the newborn was close to death: it is blue, no muscle tone, and not breathing. (Start at 7:30 minutes) <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgb7AL7kFbg<br /><br />I highly recommend Dr. Tuteur's YouTube film on the many problems of home birthing. <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhitx-DwLCs LindaRosaRNhttp://www.scienceinmedicine.org/fellows/Rosa.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-49544254246559464702013-12-17T15:43:34.972-05:002013-12-17T15:43:34.972-05:00You certainly have named a lot of reckless practic...You certainly have named a lot of reckless practices in this blog.<br /><br />Water births have, alas, proved to be a lethal practice. The hot tub water not something you want going into a newborn's lungs. The infant can also become seriously chilled. <br /><br />Amy Tuteur ("SkepticOB") – a good source of information on the dangers of home birthing in the USA – has written about this irresponsible "natural" birthing practice:<br /><br />"The most critical task for the newborn is to take its first breath. Inhaling a mouthful of fecally contaminated water instead of air is profoundly dangerous....Neonates can and do inhale copious amounts of fecally contaminated water during waterbirth. Indeed, they have been found to inhale such large quantities of water that the water dilutes the concentration of sodium in the bloodstream to fatally low levels (hyponatremia). Even small amounts of inhaled water can introduce significant amounts of bacteria into the neonatal lungs leading to pneumonia and other infections..."<br /><br />http://www.skepticalob.com/2012/10/hannah-dahlen-waterbirth-fatalities-are-not-a-medical-myth.html<br />LindaRosaRNhttp://www.scienceinmedicine.org/fellows/Rosa.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-82211792257291663512013-12-17T14:56:24.690-05:002013-12-17T14:56:24.690-05:00I don't either, and I think it would be awfull...I don't either, and I think it would be awfully difficult to determine this in any way that was both ethical and valid.Jean Mercerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619393019771381980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2743746633913926150.post-18703487177387087002013-12-17T14:14:19.078-05:002013-12-17T14:14:19.078-05:00The only thing I'd heard about water birth was...The only thing I'd heard about water birth was that it was supposedly less painful than normal childbirth. I have no idea if that's true or not.theorclairnoreply@blogger.com